Mr. Jim Ryan:

One of the things we have to be careful of is the model of care. Child and adult care are quite different. That has always held up that particular issue of whether to provide counselling and how to provide all the safeguards that would be required when dealing with someone under the age of 18.

To come back to the point, to try to move the dial from the perspective of young people ending up having to go to secondary care and enhancing our health and well-being and our primary care services, we will have to do both. We have invested significantly in a number of youth organisations, of which Jigsaw is obviously one. There are other programmes we have invested in, for example, Foróige’s big brother big sister programme, which is a useful and cost-effective way of not only integrating young people when they come out of CAMHS but also making sure they have good mentoring and they reconnect with the local community. In all of those situations, we are trying to engage. We have invested significantly in our Text 50808 over recent years. We are looking at technology to get to a wider population. We will not be able to provide all of those services in the traditional manner. We will have to do it differently.