Shane Cassells (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

That is really interesting. We often see it in RTÉ news reports on older people, when they do the shot of just focusing on someone's hands. It is a simple thing like that.

My next question is for Dr. Casey and Ms Brack. The issues are different but it is still on the theme of inclusion. Dr. Casey touched on not wanting to be stereotypically portrayed. Is that purely visual? How do we counter that? I also put this to Ms Brack. Dr. Casey made the point about the future of media report. I pay tribute, because when it was being compiled after the preliminary discussions, all these groups were represented. I was at nearly all of the online briefings during Covid, and they were all represented. Are they hopeful that what has been set out charts a different pathway for Independent Living Movement Ireland and the Irish Traveller Movement?