Mr. Robbie Kitt:

I will make a point on that as well. Mr. O'Keeffe suggested that the only reason a business would open past 12 midnight is to sell alcohol. If one has a pub that makes sense, but if one is a cultural operator that is not the perspective. There was mention of Berlin. If one goes to nightclubs in Berlin, it is clear that the reason they are open past 12 midnight is not to sell alcohol; it is for a very specific provision from their business. We are largely talking about the needs of one business type within the night-time economy here. Obviously, these businesses are very large. I agree with Ms Kealy when she says there are a lot of solutions within the pubs for cultural operators and cultural practitioners. Historically, it has been an incredibly important place for cultural practitioners to share what they do in Ireland and present themselves to audiences but the problem is it is in decline. The decline that we have highlighted in the cultural sector is even greater. We have to be clear here that the system we have now is set up in the image of the dominant business type in the night-time economy. That is not a knock on the pubs. That is just the fact of the matter. It also influences the culture and the conversation that we are having, and even the shared vocabulary of what we are talking about when we are talking about post-midnight activity. We have highlighted the decline - how the system does not work for our industry and for our sector - for decades. The Give Us The Night campaign is 18 years old now. This has been going on a long time. We need, as Mr. Sharpe says, a dedicated licence, or at least access to a permit which suits the type of operation we are describing.