Mr. Liam Boyle:

It goes back to Senator Warfield's point on the DTT as well. We are just about to start an evaluation of the existing services as part of the licensing process pursuant to section 72 of the Act. We are looking at qualitative and quantitative measures and connections with audiences. We just started that work this week. We are looking to do this later this year, working alongside Mr. Murray and Ms Bowell. Part of that work is connections with audiences. It is all part of the mix of where audiences are going. With community, as Mr. Murray said, social benefit is also a key point that we will be looking at measuring. We developed a framework at the BAI over the past few years and will also be applying that to the community television sector in looking at how the sector can be sustainable over the new few years.