Mr. Rory Coveney:

If one looks at the percentages, every percentage point of avoidance or evasion by non-television homes costs RTÉ approximately €1.8 million. That gives a sense of the scale of the losses. I fully accept this is a difficult political problem to solve but many other countries, such as Germany and Scandinavian countries, have solved it. The Future of Media Commission report looked at all the different models and made a particular recommendation which the Government did not accept, as is its right. As I said, however, the Government accepted the diagnosis, that is-----