Ruairi Ó Murchú (Louth, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I think we all agree on that point. I accept that the ratios sound like a disaster from a long-term point of view but it is something that has been said in numerous instances. If money is going to be paid out, we need a means by which we can make some determination that an overreliance on trainees is not happening. I reiterate there is a requirement for new collective agreements. Beyond that, there is a definite need for representation of crew members within some of the industry organisations. Perhaps this issue can be dealt with at that sort of level and we can get to a better place. Am I out of time?