Mr. Stephen Mulvany:

I would not accept at all that it has been an unmitigated disaster. Will we review all that we learned on the way up to and during the most recent crisis? Yes, we will. We need to see what can be improved and we need to see what has made the most impact. There have been substantial impacts in terms of trolley numbers going down substantially. To be clear, one trolley is one too many. We do not believe that any level of people trolleys is acceptable. Given the levels that were reached and the levels that could have been reached, there was an overall system response. I would include managers, front-line workers, middle managers, and GPs in that. The system responded across the board, inside and outside the HSE.

Yes, there is always a possibility to learn lessons. We have already formally decided to do that. It is part of our normal process to do an after-action review in any case.