Dr. John Farrell:

It takes engagement like this to act as a lever to start the conversation about things that need to be done. We need more GPs and we need more GPs to be trained. We have agreed that is an issue. Deputy Cullinane has clearly said that the targets we hope for are unlikely to be reached, but if we do not start with some sort of solution-based discussion, we will not get anywhere and Deputy Shortall will be having this conversation in three or four years' time with somebody else sitting here. We hope from this committee today that people like Deputy Shortall who have a huge interest in health would actually say these are reasonable suggestions. They are proposals. Other people will have to look at finance and contracts and the IMO will have-----