Ms Molly Joyce:

Yes. There is a lack of transparency. You cannot point to figures or the numbers of people who are caught up in this. This is a slightly different issue but there were media reports about 18 months or two years ago about how an individual caught up in prison who was very unwell but on remand ended up spending such a long period on the waiting list for the CMH that they were in prison for longer than they would have been if they had just been processed and convicted of the crime of which they were accused. That is a slightly different issue but all these slightly strange things can happen whereby someone can end up being detained for much longer than any of us would think is possible.