Mr. Michael O'Leary:

Honestly, we rarely meet them. It is not that frequent. To be fair, that is not unusual. We do not meet with many Departments. We meet regularly with the airports because that is the service we need and provide. It is regrettable we have not had a sit-down. Every time a new Government takes office, the Department of Transport should sit down, not just with us, but with the other airlines and ask what it can do for us and how it can develop policy. That framework does not exist and has not existed under a number of recent transport Ministers.