Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Thursday, 10 November 2022

Joint Oireachtas Committee on the Implementation of the Good Friday Agreement

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill and the UK Government's Plans around the Human Rights Act: Amnesty International UK

Mr. Eugene Reavey:

I will go first on this.

The DPU has a very funny take on this because it is supporting the Government, which means some of the people working with the families of the victims of the Kingsmill massacre or any of those big massacres will not get any justice for their clients, or whatever we want to call them. Of the cases that are left, they are mostly all legacy cases. The British cannot win any of these cases. For years, we have been denied stuff. The one man that has stopped more cases in the North is now in the South, namely, Drew Harris. I have said this ten times. He was in contempt of court in the North many times. That man should have been in jail, not in the South as the chief law keeper.

This thing never leaves you. There is no such a thing as closure for any victim. Closure is not a word for us. If we got a law case tomorrow morning or we found out who did this, that will not close what has gone on up here. It cannot bring back your parents or other family members. Every time I go to a football match, I am thinking, Jesus, if only John Martin, Brian and Anthony were here and their grandchildren were out playing. We were robbed of all of that. My mother and father tried their very best. There were too good of people; that is what they were. They were too good to push harder because they did not want to offend anybody. They did not understand anything about the law. My mother was never in a courthouse in her life. When she went to the court in Newry, the judge said to her:

Stop this case for a moment. Mrs. Reavey, I want to ask you where did you suffer the shock when Fr. Hughes and Dr. Stewart told you your sons had been murdered. Was it when Dr. Stewart and Fr. Hughes told you in your sister's house in Camlough? Two, was it when it you came home to your cottage and you saw the police and army and all there? Or, thirdly, was it when you saw your sons lying on the slab in Daisy Hill Hospital?

That was very cold. Mummy started crying. She could not answer these questions and the judge said: "Mrs. Reavey, you are wasting the time of this court. Case dismissed." It is a regret of mine that I did not say anything more.

Everywhere we went, we were stopped at every course. The authorities have nowhere to go now with these cases only to pull out this legislation. It does not make any sense to anyone. It is disgraceful that they probably are going to get away with it.

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