Ms Kate Mulkerrins:

Signage is important. It is not the only important thing because all the elements link together. Mens reais key here. The intention is to create a strict liability offence, by my understanding, in which case, in my view, avoiding a defence of honest mistake in respect of the parameters will be problematic if, exactly as the Deputy said, people move in numbers. It is a combination of all those things: people moving in numbers, a lack of signage and an inability to take names and addresses.

Deputy Cullinane's point about body cameras is key because, obviously, ex post factointel can potentially identify the persons who have been warned more than once and if an organised group reappears. We saw that during Covid, when there were protests - from memory, in Kildare - involving signage of foetuses in buckets that many people found offensive and reports from the general public. That was a small number of persons, however, and we had the evidence of the signs held, which, again-----