Rose Conway-Walsh (Mayo, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

That is exactly the point. We must also ask how we can scale up the models, the pilot programmes that are being used.

I am interested in the EMHP model to which Ms Stockham referred and how it might work. From my experience, I think it could work effectively in Ireland. How is the impact of that model going to be measured as we go along? I will give her an opportunity to explain the specific model.