Mr. Leo Kearns:

It is like that old saying that everyone has a plan until they meet reality. In fairness to the Minister, he established the advisory group because he wanted objective advice and input. We are looking at the implementation of the RHAs from the perspective of people with a lot of experience in the health service at all levels and the community and patient advocate groups. We are saying that if the RHAs are to work, these are the principles that should underpin them. That raises issues-----