Mr. Leo Kearns:

We mentioned that earlier. I completely agree that this is probably the biggest issue we have because if we do not have people, we do not have a healthcare system, regardless of what else we have. We have a serious crisis. In the advice we gave, we said there needs to be a multilayered, cross-system and pretty fundamental workforce strategy that deals with all those issues in a joined-up way. We know we have issues at ground level. These are basic things that are not happening, such as people not getting their rosters or emergency tax issues and so on. We have a lack of clarity around career planning and training, and a connection between education and health that is aligned to the configuration of services. Where are we going with our services? What is that telling us about the numbers? Do we then translate that into actuality? The Department and the HSE have definitely taken on board how critical and profound an issue this is. It is going to-----