Mr. Jerry MacEvilly:

The 2019 report of the Oireachtas Joint Committee on Climate Action, which is the predecessor of this committee, has a chapter on climate communications with recommendations to Government and I would hazard a guess that it is still relevant. On this piece around engaging communities and giving them a basis on which to feed in their views, EirGrid has done really fantastic work as part of the development of its strategy. EirGrid set up its own citizens' assemblies to directly engage with community groups in order to understand people's views of the energy transition.

Finally, there is a continuous narrative in the media that climate action equals cost. I believe that the following really need to be explained. One, inaction has a major cost so, for example, traffic congestion has an impact on health. Two, when it comes to ensuring that people support larger pieces of infrastructure they need to see the benefits, particularly for the most vulnerable people, in terms of energy efficiency.