Mr. Daniel McLoughlin:

Where the conversation broke down was understanding, from the State's perspective, the value for money around giving private funding, a 5% or 6% return on our investment, as to whether or not that money could have been available through the National Treasury Management Agency, NTMA, or whatever. That was one part of the discussion and the other part was whether we should we have something at the end of it. To be perfectly frank I would be in that stable. I would be comfortable with the State paying-----