Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I thank the witnesses for coming in. I admire their work in totally different ways. I am delighted to see them here. Ms Joyce and I previously saw each other at the parliamentary forum. We were speaking again at yesterday's meeting of the Joint Committee on Justice regarding places of detention. Deputy Bacik and I co-chair the penal reform group within the Oireachtas.

I was struck by something Ms Joyce said a while back about how Traveller women were just invisible until the end of the conversation. I was in Limerick recently and we spoke about the particular difficulty that the Irish Penal Reform Trust, IPRT, has examined. It has identified the particular prejudice that faces Traveller women in prisons, the massive over-representation of Traveller women in prisons, and the particularly difficult circumstances that many of them have experience to end up there. I do not mean to start something negative, but it was only on Tuesday. It is just that it did not come up at all. I was thinking about Ms Joyce and what she had said at the parliamentary forum. In a different, much more positive way, I was thinking, just as Ms Joyce was speaking there, that I cannot remember the last time I saw a Traveller woman on TV. I do not know whether it is that I do not watch much TV or that I have been missing something. In the broader cultural discussion, I just have not seen it. It is really important what Ms Joyce has highlighted today.

I ask the witnesses from Women on Air to forgive me because I have been in and out between this meeting and another committee meeting. I would like to understand a little bit more deeply why the witnesses think there are so few women on air. To the witnesses from the 30% Club, one of the things that really concerns me is not so much board representation but executive management representation and women at that level. That is where the decisions are made and where money is to be made. Also, crucially, that is where culture is set, at senior management levels. Those are my two questions, to begin with.