Mr. Brendan Crowley:

The important thing is the 20% reduction and how it affects businesses. Deputy O'Connor was probably in that space as well. In the north east for instance, there is a well-known bus company that operates from Deputy Ó Murchú's constituency. Ultimately, they carried thousands of passengers per day in and out of Dublin. With that 20% reduction only going to PSO services, customers of that company who wanted to continue using the same service they had been using for years could not avail of that reduction. The only way they can avail of that 20% cost-of-living measure is to leave that operator and switch to a PSO operator. The PSO service may grow as demand grows, but the commercial bus operator will start to disappear. Effectively, the 20% is distorting the market severely. The other side of it is-----