Mr. David Joyce:

Regarding the Senator's first two questions, any organisation that espouses a position regarding proof has to be able to stand up to any robust questioning of that. I agree that taking this step in itself is an important one for our country, but let us be ambitious and make it a step that will make the rest of the world stand up and see that we have done something serious - not a minimal step, but something that will make a significant difference in the lives of women predominantly, but also some men, who are the victims of domestic violence.

I do not have an answer to the Senator's third question. The departmental officials or someone else might.