Jennifer Carroll MacNeill (Dún Laoghaire, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I wanted to ask that to tease out the issue between the role of the prison visiting committees vis-à-visthe other structures and how that could and should work. I visited Cloverhill with Ms Ryan a little while ago and I visited Limerick, though without the prison visiting committee. On the communication between the governor, the people who are in prison and the staff, some of the issues Dr. Conroy is describing, such as where somebody has a mental illness that kicks off in some way, can become difficult issues to manage from a staff perspective in lots of different ways. The role of the prison visiting committees seems to be nuanced, in the centre somewhere and in providing a good communication tool across the different structures of the prison. It is sometimes very hard to capture that in legislation. I ask the IPRT, Dr. Conroy and Ms Ryan and Dr. O'Connell and Mr. Kelly how should that interaction work best so we do not lose something in a new structure that captures something very nuanced in a difficult environment, while updating and improving the structures overall.