Mr. Derek Moore:

Talk about passing the buck. I was not expecting to speak today. Mr. Dougherty asked me in the bus on the way down. I will leave the complicated stuff to Professor Shirlow and the others. I am working on a thing in the city of Derry that I was asked to do by republicans who approached me for an opinion on this discussion. They included both mainstream republicans, from Sinn Féin, and dissident republicans. I am simply a working person. I play in a band. I have been a builder all my life. It is only in the last eight or nine years that I have been in the community sector and in this illustrious company, sometimes uninvited and sometimes not. As I say, this is a bit last minute. I wrote a few notes on a presentation that I hope to do later. I will go through a bit of it. I apologise in advance because there are more arrows on it than in a John Wayne western. I might have to jump back and forward. It might be a bit disjointed and therefore probably looks like an Ireland's Future statement. These are just my own thoughts. It is a working-class vision, which I will speak about in the city shortly.

Living in Londonderry, I feel at times that I live in a united Ireland, but it is one with obvious advantages such as the support of the British economy. Derry is a microcosm of what a united Ireland could look like. We replaced a unionist council in the 1970s, which was blamed for every discrimination under the sun, with a nationalist one. I cannot tell the committee whether the unionists were discriminating or not. Much has been said about that. I was born into a working-class family. My parents lived in a house with gas, owned by some major unionist. For me, it was a class issue, not one of Protestants or Catholics.

Derry has endured the euphoria of power exercised by the natural majority in the city, who removed their neighbours completely from the city side during what we commonly call the exodus. The council and the now-blossoming community sector took over the running of the city. They focused on rectifying the wrongs that they felt had happened in the past. This was with the knowledge that the Protestants would never return because they would never have a majority again. There was no way back for them. They used the power that they had to suppress the minority. The real concern for me and people I speak to, including working-class people in bands and communities like that, is that they feel this will happen again in an Ireland that is united. It is how I feel things will evolve. I am not alone in that thinking. If I lived in an all-Ireland state tomorrow, what would change for me? I would still live with the same Catholic, nationalist politicians, neighbours and council that I have now. No one will tell me that there will be a road to Damascus moment and that their thinking and sense of prejudice will disappear. I do not think our prejudice will disappear.

When I am doing this work in the city, I am told there is a tidal wave of support for a border poll for a united Ireland from the nationalist and republican population. This message is promoted by politicians on the nationalist side. As I said to them, we have all heard the statement about turkeys voting for Christmas. What more could nationalists in Northern Ireland, or any of us for that matter, want? We have self-determination about nationality, whatever way we want. We have a massive community and voluntary sector that funds 30% of our jobs, although I will leave most of the technical details to Professor Shirlow. We have the benefits of Britain's economic power. We can have any passport we want, whether a British one to show that we are British or an Irish one, or a mix of the two to travel around the world. We have a chance to build a great future. I tell this to all my friends and everyone who argues the case against it. We can focus on the future, not the past.

We have a great symbol in Derry, which I am sure everybody knows. It is on the side of a gable wall and states, "You are now entering Free Derry". That probably sums up how Derry people and many people in Northern Ireland think. Everything is free, including health, education and all the things we want. They are free. Why would we want to change that lifestyle? Why would nationalists want to change that lifestyle? There is constant noise from political nationalists, academics and even foreign politicians that pro-union supporters need to discuss and articulate their thoughts and position on a united Ireland. A clear position has never been laid out to me about what a united Ireland looks like. I am happy with what I have, so why would I be interested in discussing something that has never been articulated to me? A clear position is necessary for any future debate. All I want to do is to look at the economic, cultural and societal facts to see if they create any doubt about the concept. Brexit delivered lies. It made false promises and showed that not having a bigger majority than 50% plus one will never work. Northern Ireland is a great place and I have no bother promoting that.

That is the kind of thing I am working on at the minute. It is not looking at economics or the big picture, but at the people I live with. I would not force the people who I live with into a Republic of Ireland that is stable because if we cannot live together in Northern Ireland, then we will never live together in a united Ireland. I will hand over to Mr. Dougherty. Those are my thoughts. I know I did not submit any papers.