Mark Daly (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

I thank the Senator for that contribution.

One of the key parts of this debate is the issue around previous referendums and learning lessons, which we will address in the next session. As some people have said to me, we are fortunate to have had Brexit, in the sense that we see what an unprepared-for referendum can do. Many people have said to me also, with which I tend to agree, that the referendum is the full stop in the long conversation. Some have talked about different or two-stage referendums but I believe if an issue such as this is taken on, there has to be a long conversation on all of the aspects. The point made by Mr. Moore that, in essence, he feels that he is already living through that experience, is one to which we need to listen. The discussion, as Senator Cassells pointed out, is about what the best future is for generations and the children to come. That is what witnesses and participants today and other participants have spoken about. That is based on facts and having that discussion.

The issue of having referendums before people are prepared for all of the consequences of them, in whatever format that takes, is the only upside that I have seen of Brexit, that is, that we do not have to talk about the issue of having a referendum without preparing people for it. We are now living through an experience of something like that.

I want to bring in our three witnesses and then there were some questions directed towards Professor Shirlow, Mr. Dougherty and Mr. Moore, if they would like to come back in. I am conscious of time but I also want to ensure that everyone can respond to questions and make further points, if they wish. I call Mr. Marshall.