Niall Ó Donnghaile (Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

This discussion has been very good and very useful. I want to listen to Ms Sugden a bit more. I know Friday is a constituency day so she is busy and it is great she was able to join us for as long as she did. I want to understand more about the issue of these islands and I hope I can come back to her on it. I want her to expand on this and what it means with regard to constitutional change. I do not fully understand what she means.

I have a question for Professor Shirlow. He said several times that people tell him he is wrong. I want to understand more about what and whom he means by this. Is it the media, the political class or elected representatives? Who is it?

While I have a view, I cannot say that Professor Shirlow is wrong. I cited 39% and the 12% decline in unionism because it was brought up. The middle ground is potentially comprises people who would advocate for the status quo. Equally, one could argue that they are people who would advocate for change. I want to win the referendum substantially and cleanly, but we have to engage in an information process. Professor Shirlow is correct about the complexities, idiosyncrasies and dynamics involved. Ultimately, though, we will not know people's positions until the question is asked. I want the question to be asked in as informed and agreed a way as possible.

I agree with Mr. Dougherty. Unfortunately, I know the bands from a distance. I like the ones that play the fife – I like the sound that the wee fifes make. I wish we had a similar experience in Belfast and other places where we could engage. Unfortunately, they will not speak to me or the community that I represent, and I want to change that. I want them to speak to us.

I asked Ms Grundle about BT not in a confrontational way, but to find out whether it had said something. I wanted to know. Business adapts. We heard from the German guy last week, whose name I forget-----