Mr. David Moloney:

There is flexibility in how things are rolled out in different policy areas and different choices are made. If one is thinking about our new agencies being created, the Oireachtas created two new agencies. It has created one, in terms of the Maritime Area Regulatory Authority, MARA, and will, if it has not already, create a media commission. They are two areas where it is felt that is the best way of delivering on the ambitions in those areas.

There has been great growth in both of those areas in the Irish context with the offshore renewable ambitions for the Maritime Area Regulatory Authority, MARA, and the prevalence of particular types of companies in the Irish industrial landscape for the media commission. Those are two areas where new agencies are being created.

In other areas, the administration of some services can be achieved through partial outsourcing but that only happens where the existing administration is incapable of fulfilling what needs to be done. Overall, we address different challenges in different ways. We have changed organisational arrangements and used different ways of delivery over time. Obviously Revenue is an example. The Chairman earlier mentioned ICT and I agree that the future of the Civil Service and public service requires a shift towards ICT. That is reflected in the Civil Service renewal plan. There is an idea for 24-7 public service delivery by 2030 and that sort of thing, and there are EU targets in that regard. We are mindful of those issues. We are open-minded about how to deliver on some of those issues.