Marc Ó Cathasaigh (Waterford, Green Party) | Oireachtas source

Some material changes and the significant events are the two things that have come across the submissions. It shows the benefit of having a pre-legislative scrutiny process. Our guests have brought a level of nuance to the discussion today, which answers many of the concerns. Certainly, if we see that feed through into the legislation, it will be helpful.

I wish to give our guests the opportunity to talk about what they would like to see in terms of progressive or intermediate sanctions, as they call them. Is that something they would like to see codified within the Bill? Do they feel like they have enough guidance as it currently stands within the Bill in terms of those progressive steps that they take with charities?

The other thing is the appeals mechanism and the current situation whereby recourse to the High Court seems to be very early in the list of items that will be undertaken. How often have we seen recourse to the High Court used by the Charities Regulator or by a charity to push back against a decision made by the regulator? Maybe the witnesses could give me a little more of a detailed understanding of what kind of appeals mechanism the regulator would like to see in order that we have the appropriate protection for charities to be able to defend themselves against decisions made by it.