Mr. Derek Tierney:

I think we have seen a shift. At the start of this year, the Government published the Harnessing Digital framework, which is about leveraging digital to make the economy more resilient and take every opportunity. In 2020 or 2021, the Office of the Government Chief Information Officer published new guidance for public sector entities on leveraging cloud. It is being mainstreamed. In this development and other projects I am working on, we see, even in the HSE, a move to cloud because it provides resilience. I am not sure it is a barrier. In the HSE and in this programme, we are leveraging cloud as we build the digital capability in the provision of paediatric services. Generally, leveraging digital throughout the health service-----