Lisa Chambers (Fianna Fail) | Oireachtas source

It is quite interesting that we have now got a majority in favour of greater co-operation on defence, which is something we were afraid to talk about a number of years ago, but circumstances have changed. Are there any plans on the part of EMI to delve further into that space given it is quite controversial? What does greater co-operation in defence mean? What does it look like? We saw quite an adverse reaction to Ireland joining the Permanent Structured Cooperation, PESCO, which involves co-operating on training exercises and sharing of knowledge, not troops on the ground anywhere. Ms O'Connell mentioned that citizens want to see us learn from each other in respect of best practice and that is what PESCO is about. Are there plans to delve a bit further into what that might look like and what people are comfortable with?

On the Conference on the Future of Europe, what level of participation or engagement was there from Irish citizens? I mean ordinary citizens, not those working in the sector, like us, for example. How was participation measured and what was the level?