Mr. Pat McCormack:

I will take that one. There is no point in getting a fair price, like €3 per litre for your milk or €15 per kilogram for your bullock, if you can only produce 100 l and one bullock. It is about having a sustainable economic living from a family farm model. I have sat here before when we have condemned and talked about the power of the retailer. Margins have been eroded but there needs to be a certain level of output to have a viable family income from the agricultural sector and from the family farm.