Mr. Jonathan Powell:

It is a manifestation of a bigger problem. It goes back to Boris Johnson saying that the Irish Border was just like the border between Camden and Islington. There is a complete misconception about the whole issue of Northern Ireland. There is a lack of interest and a lack of care. I have talked about the people who voted for him who could not care less about the issue. The Brexiteers always saw this problem of Northern Ireland. They knew it existed but just saw it as the tail wagging the dog and wondered why should they care about this whole Northern Ireland nonsense and we must just focus on the real issue, which is Brexit and setting Britain free. That is the problem and we are living with the consequences of that attitude.