Catherine Murphy (Kildare North, Social Democrats) | Oireachtas source

The problem is that you are not getting to the structure. With different parts of the country, it is like a postcode lottery. This is probably a matter regarding which we could even focus on one particular region, even one CHO area, and do a granular examination, bearing in mind the wider sense of value for money. As has been defined, it is not just about what we spend; it is also about the services and the quality of the services we get for what we spend. We tend to put big-ticket items on the agenda. When we have HSE representatives in, we often leave feeling pretty frustrated. It would be better if we did one thing and did it really well in terms of drilling down into the value for money. We would be able to compare with other areas if we had a full sense of the inner workings. We should be thinking about doing that in the autumn, but let us explore the particular questions so we will have gathered sufficient information to put a shape on that.