Mr. Denis Hynes:

Ms Dunne is right. The veto in 2012 did not help, so how do we get the JLC back? It requires Government to invite the parties in. It requires it to invite the employer side and the union side in to talks and try to move this along. That is the first step. From there we can work forward.

The Deputy also asked about organising the right to join a union. That was all covered under the JLC. I do not sit in front of the committee today asking it to organise workers for us. We are big and strong enough to do that ourselves. We have been doing that, and are continuously doing it. What I do not want to see happening, and what none of us here wants to see happening, is the workers and members we currently have in this employment being compared to those who have worse pay and worse conditions at a time when pay and conditions are heading south. We do not want that to happen. We want to put a stop to that if we can and bring back the JLC. I am becoming repetitive.