Ms Caroline Counihan:

The Chairman is flattering me there. I am on the same page as Ms Woods from the Department of Justice; I am not sure what the best way to proceed is, either. I love the idea of research, which speaks to the researcher bit of my soul, but I am also conscious, having had many conversations with Ms Murphy on this and having heard about it on the ground as well, that there is an urgent need for this. If it is, after all, decided it is best to proceed with Deputy Cian O'Callaghan's Bill and to amend it, it will be important that it be drafted in such a way that it will capture the wide variety of cases Ms Murphy laid out for us. What we see all the time is that sexual exploitation and abuse is a horrible amoeba. It adapts to fit a shape that suits whatever the situation is. Somebody who is determined to abuse another person sexually will find some way to do it.