Josepha Madigan (Dublin Rathdown, Fine Gael) | Oireachtas source

I already gave my personal view. I said I think SNAs should be accredited. My personal view is important, but it is not everything either. There is a process that must be followed. As Deputy Ó Ríordáin knows, the issue around the minimum requirements is already with the Workplace Relations Commission, WRC, and the Department is engaging with that process. Of course, if a Minister or Minister of State expresses a view, then it means that makes a difference. It cannot, however, change everything. I have, however, made it clear to the Department that I do think we must look at the minimum qualifications and at the issue of accreditation. This is important.

Turning to the parity of esteem issue the Deputy spoke about, as he is aware, there is an industrial relations forum in place that provides a structured process to manage any industrial relations issues that arise in this sector. That forum provides a dedicated channel for Fórsa to raise matters of interest or concern. There is a sectoral aspect to this context, which the union has used in the past. Fórsa has sought a range of additional leave for SNAs through the industrial relations mechanisms and the Department is engaging with the union on these claims as well. The fact that one public service grade has access to certain leave or other conditions of employment, however, does not automatically mean other grades should. Each claim is examined on its own merits and in the context of the impact on the system of increased leave in respect of cost.

The fact one particular public service grade has access to certain leave or other conditions of employment does not automatically mean other grades should. Each claim is examined on its own merits and with regard to the impact on the system of increased leave and cost.

I get the point around the link, nonetheless, and having respect for special needs assistants. I also get the point about them being called by their first name rather than their surnames. Perhaps guidance could be given around that. Circulars exist but perhaps they could be revisited so it could be emphasised with schools that there should be respect for SNAs at all times. Neither principals nor staff would be in the position to look after the children with additional needs without the SNAs, who are an integral part of the process. To a certain extent they are perhaps the most important part of looking after children with additional needs.