Ivana Bacik (Dublin Bay South, Labour) | Oireachtas source

The Deputy could never do that. This is an interesting discussion. It goes to the heart of the issue with which the citizens' assembly was grappling and with which we are now grappling, that is, how we can provide the level of human care we are anxious to ensure remains while still ensuring those who are providing the care are themselves cared for and have decent contracts of employment. The desire to achieve that balance can be seen in the citizens' assembly recommendations. This goes to the heart of our discussions. We thank our guests for that. It is no bad thing if there are differences of emphasis among our guests.