Eoin Ó Broin (Dublin Mid West, Sinn Fein) | Oireachtas source

I might add a supplemental point to that. Some of these things may be part of the review but a decision may be taken that it is too early to put it in the legislation There is a value in at least having those under consideration. Unlike the Land Development Agency or other areas, this is an area where we have legally binding reduction targets. Embodied carbon is responsible for 10% of current emissions and that will grow as the national development plan expands. Embodied carbon relates to what we do with the existing built environment in terms of what we reuse or recycle and what new elements we put into it. We had this conversation with the witnesses' counterparts who are working at EU level on having a certification system for embodied carbon in different products. What I got from that conversation, and I say this respectfully, is there did not seem to be a sense of urgency that we need. We are already two years into the Paris Agreement and we are meant to have emissions reductions out to 2030. We were meant to have a 4.8% emissions reduction in the past year but we had a 6% increase in emissions. Unfortunately, with this one, we do not necessarily have the same kind of space as we might have in other legislation. I am not asking Ms Graham to add anything else to it other than I am stating there is a sense of urgency with this. With regard to the experience of the body, particularly with respect to the weather review group, if with respect to the review we were able to ask what is happening in other jurisdictions, particularly in European jurisdictions where there they are ahead of us on some of these issues, and if they have started making changes to their planning process, that could inform subsequent revisions. All of us, including those of us on this committee, are very behind the curve in thinking our way through what a post-carbon budget planning system, building control system and construction industry looks like and we do not have much time to catch up.