Mr. Dalton Philips:

Rather than 20. This is a highly stressful job and people get sick, and we have to support our people. They are under severe pressure at the moment and they are doing Herculean work. I acknowledge there have been challenges at the seams, but these people are really leaning in. They want the travelling public to travel and they are giving everything. I hope the committee understands that if we had not had the support of the officers we have today and if they had been disengaged, we would have had many worse scenes over the course of this year. They have done an outstanding job.