Oireachtas Joint and Select Committees

Wednesday, 25 May 2022

Joint Oireachtas Committee on Social Protection

Community Employment Programme: SIPTU

Mr. Conor Mahon:

To build on what Mr. Kearney has said and as Deputy Ó Cuív outlined, if you have someone with a social inclusive element and if you believe that this is the highest form of work he or she will achieve, then there is certainly a place within CE schemes for that individual but such people must be micromanaged to a degree. Unless you have a labour activation kind of person who has a higher capacity working alongside him or her, then you could not leave such participants to their own devices in a lot of roles. Striking a balance in a scheme is integral to its success. One cannot have all social inclusion or labour activation. You must strike a balance between the two aspects for it to work as otherwise, the micromanagement required from the supervisor means you would literally have to sit on them the whole time just to make sure that they were able to work in a safe manner.

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