Mr. Conor O'Connell:

That is very hard because the industry is changing so rapidly at the moment. We talked earlier about modern methods of construction. Timber-frame housing has replaced traditional brick and block. Even since four years ago, that change has been very significant. There are now bathroom pods and kitchen pods. This is utterly changing the labour requirements and the industry becoming far more skilled. That is why we are calling for more traineeships in certain areas. It is very specialised now and much more so than even five years ago.