Mr. Ray English:

We have national champions and we would really like to be able to send them around the targeted schools and cluster them together. I refer to matching them to allow us to get a range of skills. There might be one person in the hard skills, the old traditional ones, and then someone else in one of the newer areas. We could send those people to a school and they would be able to talk about the complexity and range of skills. It is important, as I said, that potential apprentices are talking not to us but to their peers or near peers.