Ms Mary Nolan:

On the back of what Mr. Silcock is saying, we engaged the ones who disengage from online learning. Our numbers went up. We were not counting those numbers because that was not part of what we were doing. The kids who were not engaging with online learning when they were meant to be at school from 9 a.m. to 3 p.m. were being picked up by us too. We did not get a day off and our work doubled. As for recognition, the kids turning up was our recognition. I understand Mr. Silcock's point about how we got the others to participate when there were engaging 20 online. We undertook garden gate visits to get to meet parents. We went on garden gate visits where you were able to stand at the gate and talk to a child who was really struggling in the family home. We were able to go out to the doors and be with them. We were masked-up and gloved-up.