Mr. John O'Donoghue:

The building is built on land regarding which the HSE will have a legal interest for 299 years. In any layperson's language, that is considered ownership. You can make many arguments about buildings being fixed to the land – Deputy Shortall made the point about the first schedule – but the site being leased includes the buildings on it. The reason is that if there is a breach by the State and the lease is terminated, one cannot just take back the underlying land without taking back the buildings on it. That is what is part of the lease for 299 years.