Mr. Seán Moynihan:

I do not think there is much between our view and that of Age Action Ireland. It is more a difference of emphasis. Safeguarding is very important. We are concerned at the excessive focus on this. We might say it is 4,000 units, but the reality is that if somebody rents something out and unfortunately the individual in the nursing home dies, the chances are that the property will be sold and somebody will move up. There are obviously examples in every community where houses are lying idle, but given the amount of support and protection the older person needs, the amount of costs that somebody is going to have to come up with and the length of time that people moving in might get, would we be better off shifting the emphasis and energy away from this and providing housing choices for older people, such as rightsizing and providing housing with on-site supports for older people? That would free up housing on a much bigger scale for families and provide much more long-term options. We might put in a lot of effort and produce very short-term gains for the people who move in. There is not much difference between us; it is just a difference of emphasis.