Ms Cathy Wheatley:

It is so difficult. However, we break it down to the very basics for Ted and Elsie and we encourage everybody to do this. Ted and Elsie, at age two and a half, are able to tell people that mammy's tummy was broken and Ivana is their tummy mummy. That is how they see it. Even now, when people come into the house and say, “Where is Ivana? Who is Ivana?” Ted and Elsie will say, “She is my tummy mummy.” It is lovely to celebrate the fact that is the case. That will be a lifelong relationship. I understand what the Senator is talking about.