Mr. Ciar?n O'Connor:

As Mr. Barry said, it is important that we have data that is comparable. The methods of construction have to give it a long life and that is where we fall down a little bit in timber construction, or at least we did in the past. We did not follow the proper way of building with timber and then people wondered why there was trouble. That is what I mean when I talk about the timber culture. We have to have people who actually know what they are doing. What struck me when I worked in Scandinavia was that it was second nature to them. One did not have to say things to them on site about watching out for this or that whereas in Ireland, up to very recently, one would have to be sitting on top of people to make sure they were doing the timber construction properly. There is a higher level of supervision needed but as we develop and get the skill levels up, it will happen more automatically. We are in a gear-change period and hopefully we can transition and have both types of construction at a similar level.