Dr. Mary Keogh:

The Chairman's points are absolutely valid.

As Ms Naughton said eloquently earlier, we cannot plan for what do not know. That is probably no longer an excuse now in many senses. A pandemic has happened so future thinking needs to ensure the gaps that were evident do not happen again and consider how the policy piece comes around that. The OPD involvement in that is really critical. However, it is a bigger picture, and it is linked to the climate emergency, than this way of thinking that we can suffer through and get to the end of this crisis. The critical thing is that crises are coming regularly and almost daily now. If we do not manage to get our systems, be they Government or NGOs, to be capable of rapid response - that is one of the key things about humanitarian systems - and if we are not able to have systems that are fluid enough for rapid response, we are always going to have these conversations about those who are left behind.