Mr. Martin Fraser:

There is a very significant issue of public policy and the Deputy is absolutely right. We had a position where the default and almost exclusive outcome at the end of someone's term at a high level was to retire but people are now being appointed at a younger age or from outside the public service. There are term limits and the position is now different. It is a problem for the public service and the country because it is potentially a significant disincentive to people who want to join the public service.