Mr. Martin Fraser:

To be honest with you, maybe we did. I can check my diary but I do not recall the three of us sitting down together. It could have happened and I will check my diary if it becomes a major point. I am pretty sure that I had a conversation just between myself and the CMO. It does not feel like a meeting. It just sounds like three people is one too many for a conversation like that but I could be wrong. If you want, I will check my diary but my recollection is that I just met the CMO privately. I was trying to be supportive to a colleague, to be perfectly frank with you and I think-----