Ms Claire O'Connell:

What I would say in response to that is that from the submissions of all of my colleagues here, I imagine they have engaged in surrogacy where there may have been payments or not. They can speak to that themselves. The most important thing is that the woman would have made that decision. She would have made that decision with informed consent and perhaps counselling. Any system we are proposing as a coalition would include principles that look to have an ethical framework. That includes counselling, legal advice and making sure that there is no such exploitation, which I think is a very harmful presumption.