Mr. Pádraig Egan:

I do not think any of us here have seen it. Leaving that aside, I will try to respond along the same lines as Mr. Ryan did in regard to the plans in the nursery sector. As in the case of everything else that comes out of the Department, there was no consultation on that document. The Department references consultation but it does not consult. The Department's two senior inspectors and the head of environment and assistant secretary will push that out in whatever way they want, as they did in regard to the mid-term review and the reconstitution and underplanting scheme, RUS, all of which failed. The Department brought out a project plan and many other things, but it never consulted and they all failed.

I am fairly confident when the legislation Deputy Fitzmaurice is talking about is brought in, it will not deliver what we need and what we are saying today is required because the Department does not understand what it wants itself.